Ep. 49: Jurassic Park (1993)

The new Jurassic World: Dominion movie has finally hit theaters, so Laura and Kara decided to take things back to 1993 and discuss if the original Jurassic Park movie still holds up in today's world.  Join the ladies as they whistle along to the Jurassic Park’s classic theme that became an distinctive song for kids during that time.

Summary
Jurassic Park
Jurassic Park, released in 1993 and directed by Stephen Spielberg, is about a scientist who is brings Dinosaurs back from extinction.  He keeps them on an island, but things go awry when one of his employees turns off the power on the island, thus giving the dinosaurs free rein on the island and endangering the scientists invited to the island, along with head scientist’s two grandchildren.

Jurassic World: Dominion
Humans and dinosaurs coexist in the future with this star-studded throwback cast. We struggle to make any sense of the plot. 

The Positives
Jurassic Park
The technology still holds up decades after it came out! This was the first CGI movie, with some groundbreaking puppetry mixed in. Notably, those terrifying raptors were people in costume. 

 Strong female characters.

 Samuel L Jackson(!) being the most mild form of himself.  But still, it’s fun to see him in his earlier career.

 Classic scenes that are burned into our brains like the T-Rex and the cup entrance scene 

 Peak sexy Jeff Goldblum professing chaos theory, laughing strangely, and being right about everything. We love him.

 In a movie about man vs. nature, audience members are left with the question: who is the real villian here?

 Dominion
Great culturally diverse cast that included almost all of the stars from previous Jurassic franchise movies. 

 Dewanda Wise, we bow down to you.

Potentially Problematic
Jurassic Park

Violence and death. 

Cursing. 

Constant smoking by Samuel L. 

 Intense visuals.  If your child is scared of dinos and/or loud noises you might want to rethink showing them this movie. We still think it’s appropriate for 5+. 

Dominion

Plot was terrible and confusing. Martin scorsese’s quote about Marvel movies being theme parks not cinema holds true here. It seems like all of the focus was on action sequences instead of plot and script. 

Chris Pratt is the lead and has been surrounded by controversy recently. 

Should They Watch It?

Jurassic Park

Kara: yes

Laura: yes 

 Dominion

Kara: No

Side Conversations
We talked about childhood fears. Why aren’t kids afraid of dinosaurs like they are other monsters? Is it because they’re exposed to them more as kids? Kara and Laura take a deep dive.

We also discussed the most common fears that parents pass down to their kids and found that, at younger ages kids are afraid of external things and grow to be afraid of more internal, existential threats. 

 Check out our 90s wedding announcement photo of E.T. and Spielberg on Instagram. 

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Transcript

Kara Edwards: 0:00

The views and opinions expressed by their should they watch a podcast are those of two moms who happen to be a registered play therapist and a voice actor for cartoons. So while they may feel their opinions come from a knowledgeable place, they are still in fact just opinions. Should they watch it? A podcast that takes the task of reviewing your kid's favorite shows up your to do list? Hi, and welcome to the should they watch it podcast. This is Karen Edwards and this is Laura

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Kara Edwards: 0:37

I get emotional. I get him weirdly emotional every time I hear the music from Jurassic Park, because I remember being pregnant with Michael and watching Jurassic World in the theaters and being full of pregnancy hormones and thinking I'm gonna have a little boy, and he's gonna love dinosaurs. And we're gonna watch Jurassic Park together someday. And so literally, I will be triggered every time I hear the music. I will cry.

Laura Orr: 1:08

Oh, that's so sweet. It hits you in the field. There's a lot of nostalgia though to this. This is like one of the most recognizable I think songs of our time question. I think a lot of millennials especially kids who were in band in high school can say that they played this song.

Kara Edwards: 1:31

That's really funny.

Laura Orr: 1:33

This is like the soundtrack of our childhood I would say yeah, drastic. So today we are reviewing Jurassic Park 1993 movie directed by original directed by Steven Spielberg. Kara you watched

Kara Edwards: 1:49

Jurassic Park wait Jurassic World Dominion dominion? Yeah, I did. I went to the theaters and saw Jurassic World dominion on its opening weekend. So I have so many thoughts. I cannot tell you how I managed to take one note. But it's all in my head. It's all in my head. I'm gonna be taking notes in the theater. Because yeah, there's people you know, there were people behind us and whatever. So but yeah, we wanted it we so because Jurassic World Dominion came out, we were like we should review Jurassic Park is one of our throwback movies that we love to do to let you know, does this hold up today? Is this something you can feel safe watching with your children?

Laura Orr: 2:35

Yeah, cuz so many parents, right now of young children grew up with Jurassic Park. This was such an epic movie of our time. This movie, I think, had everybody's attention. Oh, yeah. And so I think it's only natural, especially because there's been a continuation of the franchise for people to say look why, like, let's start with 1993. Let's go way back and watch when this all started. But is this does it hold up? Is this something that our young children can can watch? So I'm excited to talk about it. But first, well, so I, I wanted to say I brought some information because we talked about in when we reviewed camp Cretaceous, we talked about how Dinosaur Movies do not seem to scare children the same way that other movies where there's monster like creatures, it doesn't seem to affect them the same way right? You remember we talked about that? Yeah. And I still don't I haven't wrapped my head around that around why dinosaurs don't seem as scary as like a dragon would seemed because they kind

Kara Edwards: 3:45

of look zombies or some Yes. You had mentioned something that I think is makes a lot of sense is because children growing up like we know dinosaurs were real. Yeah. And and I think the way that they're so ingrained throughout our childhoods, like like literally Michael, right now is in a camp about dinosaurs. It's a dinosaur camp. Yeah. And so I think they're not scary, because they're thought of as like, these amazing creatures that once roamed the earth and just like a tiger or any other animal. Yeah, yes, they eat other animals, and they could be dangerous and scary, but they're also these beautiful creatures. To be admired.

Laura Orr: 4:29

Totally, totally. And yeah, and I don't know, like, do you think our kids would be scared watching a movie about like a bear attack or sharks? Because like Jaws would Jaws scare kids? Heck,

Kara Edwards: 4:45

yeah. Dude, JAWS terrified me. Because sharks are flippin real today, okay. Dinosaurs lived a really like dinosaurs are basically a kids first pokimane They're the ones that kids start like memorizing the names of When they're three years old kids geek out over dinosaurs they're cool because literally like real life prehistoric poke yawn

Laura Orr: 5:07

it's a weird spectrum though right? Because like, where they fall in like the fear spectrum I feel like it's so interesting because they do not exist, right? They like they don't exist like dragons don't exist or zombies don't exist. You're not

Kara Edwards: 5:25

gonna go on a beach vacation with your family good into the water and get attacked by a dinosaur but a shark. Yeah, totally right. I would never show Michael Jaws we'd never see a beach again. Literally.

Laura Orr: 5:36

Did you know that? Like, there was an increase of shark like relate not shark murder of sharks. One after Jaws was created like people went after sharks after Jaws was made. And

Kara Edwards: 5:50

that's actually really Yeah, it's

Laura Orr: 5:51

pretty messed honestly,

Kara Edwards: 5:52

sharks are relatively harmless. Like it's it's kind of like a bee like you're really unlikely to get stung unless you get up in their business. Totally. Sharks are very much although there's sharks at Shark I mean, I'm someone listening right now may have been attacked by a shark at some point because they do happen. The shark attacks do happen.

Laura Orr: 6:09

It's very real. That it does happen but like you said, not as not as common as like getting in a car and getting in a car accident.

Kara Edwards: 6:19

Like like if I was to go somewhere where there's wild lions roaming free. I wouldn't. I would be scared to walk through the prairies. Sure, you know, okay, Snake snakes are a great example is we're constantly talking about a fear of snakes because we're being hikers and campers. And we were camping recently where the campsite next to us had a Copperhead sitting right outside their door of their campers. So like, you know, snakes, that's a very real thing to be afraid of. Not necessarily like fear a snake, but just fear. Like, how do you handle catching one in the wild? So I think dinosaurs you don't come with all that

Laura Orr: 6:55

stuff? Because they're not around. It's not.

Kara Edwards: 6:58

They're actually not gonna come and plow down our house while we're recording this podcast

Laura Orr: 7:02

at exactly that. But what's interesting to me is you can say the same thing about a zombie right? For example, I'll just say a zombie as an example. A zombie is not going to break into our house and eat our brains, but kids are super scared of zombies, zombies or monsters. You know what I mean? Yeah, any type of fantastical creature that does not exist, my child has prevented herself from sleeping because she the thought of it is terrifying to her

Kara Edwards: 7:35

Demi Gorgons we talked about this last week. It's like Michaels still terrified of Demogorgon

Laura Orr: 7:41

so how they are scared of these things that have never exist, but they can sit down and watch a movie about something that once did exist and no longer exists for some reason they are able to wrap their head around that reality. I feel like more so than these fantastical creatures who do not exist at all. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely, like Daphne's never come downstairs and been like I am scared of T rexes

Kara Edwards: 8:09

yeah velociraptors are my greatest fear

Laura Orr: 8:13

exactly there's a raptor in my closet and I'm scared to never had she said that but she could say there I'm scared of you know a raptor living in my or I'm sorry I'm scared of a zombie coming right like that is way more realistic for her anyways right just thinking the fear the fear concept when it comes to these things is very interesting. Okay,

Kara Edwards: 8:33

quick thought could it have anything to do with the fact that there are little dinosaur toys everywhere our kids have Michael growing up like as a baby it was like all the shirts had dinosaurs on them as lunchbox as a dinosaur on it like everything like we merchandise dinosaurs exposure. Yeah, so like it's not scary because they're on my T shirt. So if we'd maybe if we would do this with zombie normalized normalized zombies

Laura Orr: 8:58

that's the answer. Thank you Kara. You're all good. I'm gonna go home and buy all the zombie gear I can find and give it to my my six year old we will if we would make

Kara Edwards: 9:11

the zombie gear as child friendly as we make dinosaur gear than we would be set.

Laura Orr: 9:18

This is an excellent example of exposure therapy.

Kara Edwards: 9:22

Okay, I was gonna say merchandising, but please, I want to hear about exposure

Laura Orr: 9:26

in a way that makes money Yeah, merchandising. Okay, right. Yeah, I think I think that I think you actually are onto something here that they see little dinosaur toys

Kara Edwards: 9:39

everywhere. And from that time they're born. Literally you give you give like a baby a little dinosaur to play with.

Laura Orr: 9:44

That's so true. But then there's this avoidance that we have when it comes to I mean, rightfully so when it comes to monsters and things like that. We try to protect our kids from these this imagery. And so when they do have it closer to it, it is probably more novel to them. That's her no question.

Kara Edwards: 10:04

Okay. I'm glad we solved the mystery

Laura Orr: 10:06

crack. It's just active Kara? Well, I was wondering, I found two lists. And I don't want to spend too much time on because we have a lot to talk about with our movies. But I was curious if you are interested in one of these two topics, child fears by age common childhood fears, divided by age. Also, I found an article about the top fears that parents pass down to their children. Oh my god, they

Kara Edwards: 10:38

both sound fascinating.

Laura Orr: 10:39

I think there's probably less to say about the the more the fears that kids have, but I can give you the list. Yeah, give

Kara Edwards: 10:46

me give me a list. Okay, so

Laura Orr: 10:48

age two to four. Most common fears, fear of the party, fear of the dark, fear of shadows, fear of sleeping alone, fear of weather, and fear of loud noises. All right, this all makes sense. Five to seven. Also fear of the dark fear fire fear of bad guys of taking tests of pure rejection of doctors and shots of okay, bugs and animals. Eight to 11 Fear of bad guys and ghosts, home well being home alone, fear of dying sickness, school failure, fear of throwing up at school, and fear of peer rejection 12 to 18 fear of their own safety, fear of sickness, fear of throwing up at school feel a fear of failure in school or in sports, of school presentations of how they look to others of violence and global issues. And then they go from 18 to 20 Fear of germs and health of being homeless of death of academic performance of romantic rejection of life purpose. And then the last one is fear of being an adult.

Kara Edwards: 12:02

So this is actually fascinating. And it makes sense that they start by being by being fearful of things that are outside of themselves that are like of the dark of loud noises and things like that. And as they grow and become more aware of self and like in society and the world starts like telling them that they should be insecure and stuff like so many the fears become their own insecurities like throwing up at school and and then by the time they're like getting into the adult ages then it's like back to like, I'm scared of germs. I'm scared of being an adult. That's really interesting.

Laura Orr: 12:38

Yeah, yeah, it does become a little bit more existential and like, like fear of your life purpose as you become an adult and like, fear of being an adult. Like I would love to talk to somebody who has that fear and just know I

Kara Edwards: 12:54

do. I'm 45 Does it count? Totally Kara? What's your adulting thing is hard.

Laura Orr: 13:01

It is hard. It's harder every year sometimes it's really weird to think that I am an adult.

Kara Edwards: 13:06

Like how did I get this old? Because I don't feel this old and I don't you know and I guess it's not that old and and on one hand I feel like I really got my life together and understand so much and yet what's gonna happen next

Laura Orr: 13:18

I think I talked about this because for me it's more like how how are people looking at me as the as as someone who should and can be responsible for another child for paying bills for like maintaining a home? Like how like you don't get more responsible than than us really you know anyway no question and like even as like you know as our parents get older like ultimately like helping be more responsible for our parents is they reach you know an older yeah that feels meaning to it's like I still kind of don't want any of that on my own. Oh, that's a lot so I guess you're right that

Kara Edwards: 14:02

we want change we fear change we Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, it's

Laura Orr: 14:06

a weird thing but yeah,

Kara Edwards: 14:07

interesting list.

Laura Orr: 14:09

I know. These fears

Kara Edwards: 14:11

do I

Laura Orr: 14:12

haven't Oh, did you Oh kid like

Kara Edwards: 14:14

my you can my biggest fear as a young child was absolutely of ET alien Yeah,

Laura Orr: 14:23

I think you've said that but

Kara Edwards: 14:24

I have I have it was he's nothing scared me more in the world than 80 I was convinced he lived in my closet. I thought he was going to like show up at the mall. I literally everything in life was just that was the I couldn't imagine a more horrifying monster than at what were you scared? He was going to do live in my closet and get in my stuffed animals because he did it in the movie.

Laura Orr: 14:48

Yeah, but like what's so scary about that? Like for

Kara Edwards: 14:54

it's not rational.

Laura Orr: 14:55

You weren't scared that he would hurt you

Kara Edwards: 14:57

know it just that he would exist and I would like open the closet door and he would just be like merch and I was like freak out because he made that really weird noise. I don't know why they made him make that weird noise and so I loved

Laura Orr: 15:09

his voice

Kara Edwards: 15:13

like I was scared of his little neck raising up and like

Laura Orr: 15:16

so freezing up was kind of freaky

Kara Edwards: 15:19

scared me to pieces. Keep in mind I seriously was like four or five years old when that movie came out. So, I mean, but no, even today when I watch it, I'm like, Why did they have to make him so?

Laura Orr: 15:31

He's pretty spindly, like Louhi super long fingers.

Kara Edwards: 15:36

Oh my gosh, I found a picture a meme. I'm going to show it to you later of. It was like a publicity steal of Steven Spielberg with et like, like, lovingly wrapping his arms around him. And somebody put like, why is this so much sexier than it should be? It's really inappropriate. And it looks very awkward. It looks really awkward. Find it why you tell your neck list. Wait, it

Laura Orr: 16:02

looks sexual.

Kara Edwards: 16:03

I will find it. Well. You talked about

Laura Orr: 16:05

Steven Spielberg lusting after eating in the photo. No, it

Kara Edwards: 16:09

they just it doesn't look the way it should look. It just feels it feels strange.

Laura Orr: 16:14

I must see this photo. I'm

Kara Edwards: 16:16

gonna look for it right now. Well, you can talk about the things we pass on to our children while I find this photo.

Laura Orr: 16:22

I don't think we have time for that. To invest in this photo. Honestly. We'll talk about we'll talk about they'll save it we'll say put a pin in it. Showing me right now. Hold on, hold on. It looks more like an awkward family photo.

Unknown: 16:39

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Laura Orr: 16:39

on. That's weird. He is ET is touching Steven Spielberg's chest area in an interesting way and he's also wearing a flannel shirt in this photo that I think is weird. You

Kara Edwards: 16:53

know I will save the photo give it to you and we can we can post it on our own it's yeah, we need to I feel like the world needs to see this publicity because also what were they promoting in this photo? I like Why was this photo put together? Why was

Laura Orr: 17:06

this photo put together? I think my problem with it is e t is very large in this photo and why is not 90 bigger than a child but in this photo he is bigger than Stevens.

Kara Edwards: 17:17

I'm just glad that five year old Kara did not see that at because I would have never recovered. But this

Laura Orr: 17:22

changed her life. This is literally a promotional photo. This isn't photoshopped.

Kara Edwards: 17:29

I don't know what that is. I just saw it online and laughed really hard because it's like why does that exist? Yeah.

Laura Orr: 17:35

Why does this exist? I really want to know the origin of this. So ETS hand is he both of his hands are literally around Steven Spielberg. It's chest area and loving and Steven Spielberg is holding one of ETs hands like very lovingly in this photo. I need to know if this is real.

Kara Edwards: 17:56

I will send it to you and let you go down that rabbit.

Laura Orr: 17:59

Did they participate in this photo shoot. Like I want to know. I want to know why. That is an amazing photo.

Kara Edwards: 18:08

That I could get us so off topic today.

Laura Orr: 18:10

I also glad that you did that. That looks like a wedding announcement. From the 90s. Yep, they definitely look like they're in love in that photo. Thank you so

Kara Edwards: 18:25

much. You're welcome. Hi, should we talk about Jurassic Park now?

Laura Orr: 18:31

Speaking of Steven Spielberg see perfect.

Kara Edwards: 18:33

I'm so glad that I could connect all of that together. Parallel conversation.

Laura Orr: 18:38

Okay, before we get into the premise Kara, should they watch Jurassic Park? 1993. Yes. Okay. Now asked me about dominion. Should they watch Jurassic World? Dominion?

Kara Edwards: 18:53

I'm going to answer with Ken. They watched Jurassic Park dominion. Yeah, there's nothing scary. I don't think Michael would have been scared at all. We didn't watch it with him. But I don't think any part of it would have been scary. Because should they watch it? No, it's a terrible movie. It's terrible. And I was so sad to say that because nobody was more excited than me to go sit in that theater and watch this movie. I have 1000 more questions than I have accolades like it. I don't understand what happened. I don't understand what went wrong. But it was a very difficult watch for me. So I will I will now go to Laura. Thank t 93. Should they watch it?

Laura Orr: 19:40

Yes, I am totally on board. I am. I think it was

Kara Edwards: 19:46

we went back. We went back and watch this. I have already watched this with Michael. I think he was four or five. The first time we watched it together. He didn't really remember it. He remembers more the LEGO game that we had played on Xbox. And so when we started why Watching it again. Like just a couple of nights ago. He was like, oh, it's that Xbox game from the Legos. And I'm like, no, it's actually the LEGO game was from the movie. Oh, that's cute. Yeah. So he remembered all the scenes from playing the game. Yeah. But no, it's just a great movie. Yeah, it holds up, guy holds up. Even the technology does not bother you to see the outdated technology. Like it all holds up. Everything holds that it

Laura Orr: 20:28

really does. I'm, I'm honestly not surprised that Jurassic World Dominion sucked.

Kara Edwards: 20:37

Really, I was so disappointed to see like,

Laura Orr: 20:41

behind every crappy franchise is an awesome original movie. That I just, I feel like this franchise has been bastardized. And it didn't start with Jurassic World dominion. There are movies prior

Kara Edwards: 20:56

to this. Oh, that are terrible. Yeah, terrible. Two and three. But then they came back with Jurassic World. And I loved Jurassic World. I loved it. Because it was just fun. Like we already knew about the dinosaurs by then. So we weren't shocked. But I found the entire movie to be fun. And this was Google. We I'm going to be honest, if it weren't for this podcast, Zach and I both agreed that we would have walked out really was that he was it was exactly I remember the time that I looked at my clock it was 624 which was an hour and 27 minutes into the movie, or whatever it was and i i literally remember that was the moment that I was like, if it weren't for watching this for the podcast, I believe exact told me later. He's like, it was about an hour before the movie ended. I was ready to go. How long is this movie two hours and 27 minutes of your lie of your life?

Laura Orr: 21:49

I really have a problem with movies being longer than two hours.

Kara Edwards: 21:54

I do too. It's ridiculous. It's so much of your time you better really give me something if you're going to sit me in a chair for almost three hours. Give me Titanic truly. If you're going to sit me in a chair for three hours

Laura Orr: 22:05

agreed. Give me Harry Potter do absolutely. Alright, let's jump into the premise of Jurassic Park. Jurassic Park was released in 1983. It was directed by Steven Spielberg. It's about a scientist who's basically he's able to bring back dinosaurs from extinction. He keeps them on an island but things go awry when one of his employees turns off the power on the island, thus giving the dinosaurs free rein and endangering all of the scientists who are invited to the island along with the head scientists dudes to grandchildren.

Kara Edwards: 22:40

Yeah, your your synopsis is a lot better than mine, because I definitely just wrote Jeff Goldbloom shirtless.

Laura Orr: 22:49

Also, Jeff Goldblum is shirtless. He

Kara Edwards: 22:51

is there's just one scene one battle scene with his broken leg that has been beamed so many times. Who would have ever thought when you put Jurassic Park together that Jeff Goldblum was going to be the the sex symbol to come out of that. And he's

Laura Orr: 23:05

also the voice of reason in the movie too, because he's the one that's kind of like, why are we doing this? Yeah,

Kara Edwards: 23:10

because this is he's the one that gives you the whole chaos theory and man versus nature and life because life will go on and

Laura Orr: 23:18

nature finds a way nature finds a way. I thought of your lizard when I was rewatching this because the dinosaurs are all female. Yep. And then they find a way to reproduce. Despite being only females.

Kara Edwards: 23:32

That was the first thing that Michael pointed out. He's like, it's okay if they're all female. So and this was he didn't even remember the movie. He goes, but it doesn't matter if they're all female. And I was like, You're exactly right. Good. Cuz they're

Laura Orr: 23:43

energetic. Jumping ahead. Yeah,

Kara Edwards: 23:45

we already we already learned science in our house.

Laura Orr: 23:48

So what was it like for you when this movie came out?

Kara Edwards: 23:51

I loved it. I was a huge fan of Jurassic Park. I don't remember anyone back then who was like What a crappy movie it was just an enormous phenomena when it came out. Yeah. I you know, I don't remember thinking back then. Like can't wait to watch this with my kid one day but I definitely as I did you ever as I got older? I mean, no, I would have been I don't know how old I would have been young, very young. And yeah, so it definitely I just feel like it's just become such a part of our, our world and our culture. And

Laura Orr: 24:26

I remember watching the making of this when I was a kid, I think HBO had a behind the scenes special. And I just remember watching it so many times and just being so enthralled by the process behind making it because at the time it looked so realistic and I would even venture to say it still looks very realistic. Yeah,

Kara Edwards: 24:45

it really does. I mean, it's it's incredible and there's there was a show on Netflix. It's like that shows behind the scenes you had talked about it Laurel before that shows you know the making of and the behind the scenes of crew Creating these movies and what they went through to create this was the first cgi movie, Jurassic Park where they started, you know, because at first they were like, How the heck are we going to make these dinosaurs be believable? And this new technology came around and what they went through making it like it, it feels like that should not hold up this many years later. And it

Laura Orr: 25:24

does. I think it's because they did it smartly, because they still had puppetry in this movie as well. Yeah. And so they didn't just rely on the technology. The I think they were pretty realistic about what they could and couldn't do. For example, the velociraptors are people in costumes, right. And so I think there's something that can be missing from the acting process, especially when everything is replaced with CGI. Because the interaction just isn't there. I think. I think a good example of that now that we see is with grow goo from the Mandalorian.

Kara Edwards: 26:10

Don't you dare. What? No,

Laura Orr: 26:13

no, no, no, no, I can't say okay. The nice I am going to say something because we love grow grew in our house. I don't think it's legal for me to talk bad about growth. I'm pretty sure that's against I was gonna say,

Kara Edwards: 26:26

Yeah, we're gonna get our podcast taken.

Laura Orr: 26:30

No, no, I'm aware of the law of the United States and I'm pretty sure in there somewhere it says that like, I would serve jail time. Okay. Talked badly about okay, okay, good. Don't you worry. Okay. I wouldn't dare No.

Kara Edwards: 26:43

I'm gonna interrupt you again. No, I

Laura Orr: 26:45

appreciate you protecting me though. Because if I were to talk bad about him, you wouldn't have a co host. Anyways. But no, I think a good example of of using puppetry instead of CGI is grow who because that allowed the actors the opportunity to interact with him in a way that you just don't get to do when you let a computer take over. That's true. I think that was done really smartly. Now. When they could have just used for again, you know, CGI grow, you can draw them in, and they do it. I mean, they do it all the time. But they chose not to. And I think that that added a bit of magic to the show itself. I think it's one of the reasons why people love him so much. Yeah. And I think that's another reason why Jurassic Park is still such a good movie is because they, those some of those dinosaurs, sores are existing in the scene, and the kids are reacting to them. And then the

Kara Edwards: 27:43

kids do such a great job. Like these are great little actors. Everybody sells this movie. So well. And it from the minute you turn it on, like I even I hit pause because one of my complaints and we'll get into some of my complaints about dominion was that it was very, very, very slow. getting going and I it was 17 minutes in Georgia into Jurassic Park only 17 minutes that the music I mean, you're invested from the first scene from the first time he pulls out the Walesa Velociraptor claw and threatens to get a child you are completely, completely invested. But, but it was 17 minutes is when they are lowering the helicopter down into Jurassic Park. And the music swells so much that you are like I am so in this movie. I don't care what else is going on? You're hooked. Yeah. And that's what a great movie does is they bring you in and you are like, I will never pee for the next two hours. Because it's going to be so good. And let me tell you, I definitely peed during dominion.

Laura Orr: 28:50

You did not feel like you needed to devote your time as much.

Kara Edwards: 28:54

No, no. And I actually chose to pee during a pivotable pivotal action scene because I was just like, I'm so over this and I came back I was like, Did I miss anything? And I was like, no, he's like, it's

Laura Orr: 29:07

yeah, he's like, this is a waste of time. Yeah, I know. I know. I think that we were also going back to the original I think we were also primed to love this as well because the marketing

Kara Edwards: 29:21

Oh, I mean the marketing was today and yet

Laura Orr: 29:24

they the marketing leading up to this was it was so smartly done like we knew this music before we sat down and watched this movie the first time

Kara Edwards: 29:34

the Yeah, we had already seen T Rex. We knew it was going to blow our mind. Yeah,

Laura Orr: 29:38

we knew I mean remember the the water scene like where the water is like jiggling.

Kara Edwards: 29:45

Oh, that Oh, yeah. Oh, everything. Yeah,

Laura Orr: 29:49

we saw that from from the minute you know, a minute. Yeah,

Kara Edwards: 29:53

we knew we were going in for something completely amazing and I'm so thrilled watching it. again now that every ounce of it lives up to the memory because it totals So in the mean and also the over the overreaching message of the movie about all of you know Jeff Gould blooms warnings but they do such a great job of his you know, I spared the warning but yeah all the sections do a great job of that but I was seeing the message of nature always finding a way yeah and showing the ego of man to try to control nature and how he spared no expense and how they play that line over and over and over we spared no expense we spared no expense and now everybody's dying and he's like, but we spared no expense.

Laura Orr: 30:41

Yeah, he's like I thought I had covered all my bases which is super silly to even think that because a lot of this stuff could have been prevented.

Kara Edwards: 30:51

Yeah with but but you feel like even today you feel like this could happen. Like no i My almost seven year old the first thing he said was he looked at Zach and was like, okay, for my birthday I want you to buy me some Amber's that has a mosquito inside of it because I want to figure out how to extract the DNA. Because I want to create my own jurassic world knows like you've learned nothing. You've learned nothing. You've learned nothing childhood.

Laura Orr: 31:17

This is supposed to tell you that this is a bad idea.

Kara Edwards: 31:21

How do I grow my own dinosaur? We're already spontaneously breeding lizards. There's more here to life.

Laura Orr: 31:28

Yeah, Michael, you have dinosaurs in your home literally right now. Right? Everything's fine. Okay, so why don't you tell us the premise of dominion.

Kara Edwards: 31:38

Okay, so I would love to do that. I don't flip. Uh, no. I don't understand it. i It's so weird. Laura. Like I genuinely tried to sit down and try to write out what is it about? Basically, what I can say is, it takes place in the future in a world where dinosaurs are part of our everyday world. I mean, they're at the park, they're at the they suddenly will just come roaming through the neighborhood, crushing everything in their sight. It's it read now coexist with dinosaurs completely on Earth. Okay. They bring together the entire all of the famous people from all of the Jurassic Park all of the Jurassic movies, except for the kids. I don't get to as we talked about that. Honestly, the kid I wanted to see come back was the one that almost got gutted. Cuz I was like, at least that would have been a throwback. That was funny. Yeah. But yeah, the kids don't come back. Everyone else's their Lord turns there, Jeff, go bloom and we got Bryce Dallas Howard. Unbelievable. Yeah. So everyone's all together, the way that they bring all of them together. It's like somebody, it's like somebody was given a writing assignment. And they said, Okay, we want to bring all of these actors back into one movie, but none of them are currently connected. So figure out how to make them all connected and make it entertaining. And by the way, put together the most amount of absolutely outrageous impossible action scenes like Leia those action scenes so big and bad, that all suspension of reality. Like there is not one. Nothing is believable in this movie.

Laura Orr: 33:20

Well, first of all, you've got the premise of, of dinosaurs and humans coexisting is you

Kara Edwards: 33:26

could see a world where it's If this has happened in Jurassic Park has existed blah, blah, blah. They could have Jurassic Park the original was so real. You can see a world in which this happened. Okay. Nothing about dominion, but it but it was like the action scenes were so dumb, like, no way is that guy getting onto that motorcycle getting over here. They're getting over here. They're getting on the airplane, and they're getting over here and then that airplane crashes, but nobody has a scratch on their entire bodies. They threw in a lot of extra James Bond type characters. That didn't make sense. And they didn't ever develop any of their storylines. Like there were these fantastic characters that would come in and be like, clearly a bad guy. And you're like, wow, she is really interesting. What what is this? And then all of the sudden like they're just gone. They're literally just gone.

Laura Orr: 34:18

That's so Wait, like you when you say like the James Bond characters. Is that what you're watching?

Kara Edwards: 34:23

I don't know. They're James Bond like,

Laura Orr: 34:25

like secret agents. I

Kara Edwards: 34:27

don't know. They're just that they would disappear. Yeah, you're wanting me to make more sense out of this then is going to be possible for me to do a no, they're just like bad guys that want to steal dinosaurs or make money and they would come in with really cool actors that look cool and act cool and do cool things and then not go anywhere with the story. We just disappear and then they would just disappear and we will never see them again. And there is only one thing in this entire movie for me. That was completely written out. I'm gonna actually I'm gonna say there's two things in this movie that were completely redeemed. and really amazing okay dawanda wise. Okay, give me any movie where dawanda Wise is the lead superhero the lead person the lead I will literally watch anything she is in for the rest of time because she is so great in this movie. And honestly all of the actors are great I don't have a problem with anything that the actors did. They just didn't have substance to go with and that was really

Laura Orr: 35:28

frustrated and have a script to just like the script wasn't good It didn't make sense there's this

Kara Edwards: 35:33

whole like subplot with this like girl that was cloned that apparently this all took place between Jurassic World was cloned. Yeah, between Jurassic World and Jurassic World Dominion there is apparently another movie that Zack and I never saw.

Laura Orr: 35:50

And should tell you something right?

Kara Edwards: 35:52

And apparently her storyline is explored more in that movie. So maybe it would have not felt like me. It just felt like it came out of left field. Like all of a sudden, there's this girl that's cloned and we're supposed to be invested in her well being except for like, what what I thought this is about dinosaurs.

Laura Orr: 36:10

I feel like they don't even care if we're invested in the people at all. I feel like these kinds of movies, there was a quote by Martin Scorsese. That's he said that Marvel movies are theme parks and not cinema. And I feel like that saying can be used on a lot of these quote unquote, epic movies where their main entrance interest is just to spend a bunch of money on action sequences and like all of this the big booms and you know all this visual stuff, and they don't invest much time in the the storyline making sense, the dialogue being interesting. And that's, it's such a such a

Kara Edwards: 36:59

shame, because I feel like this one, I just, I wanted so much more, there is a funny shot with Jeff Goldblum where he his shirt comes on button a little bit as a throwback to the original. And that was literally the only thing that felt like, oh, no, that was cheeky. That was fun. There's a there's a line that is said at the very end. Because it's the same premise is man must learn, you know, controlling man must learn that nature is going to win. Right? And, and there's someone says something at the very end, it is literally the only note that I wrote down the entire movie. Okay? Because I felt like it was I felt like it was fully describing my experience watching this movie. And I will turn it around so you can read

Laura Orr: 37:45

it. This isn't about us.

Kara Edwards: 37:48

One of the characters says that at the end, and I was like, oh, okay, that that feels right. I don't feel like this was like, this isn't about us. This is This wasn't about creating something memorable and wonderful. It was literally about putting a bunch of dinosaurs on the big screen and getting us to all go to the theater to see him again.

Laura Orr: 38:06

It's about making money. It's about making

Kara Edwards: 38:09

money. And I just wish they would, I wish they would have tied things together a little nicer. But then, you know, someone else might watch this and be like, Oh my gosh, this was the science. You know, funnily that I needed doubt it but it didn't work.

Laura Orr: 38:23

I did some looking around and the internet isn't is the it shares your sentiment that this was a missed opportunity. You have all of these actors coming together in support of a franchise that was so important to people. And they didn't do anything with it. That was remarkable. No, no, I would have

Kara Edwards: 38:44

I did just think of one more positive thing I could say about dominion. No, this is true. Oh God, a beautifully diverse cast. Okay, beautifully diverse. But also a lot of like women empowerment is there were some a lot of strong female. Yeah, stuff going on, which is something I can also say that I loved about the original Jurassic Park, is they weren't afraid in 1993 back before this was the norm to put a female lead in there and help her and gang create a character for her where she was just as strong and just as capable as the men and same with the little girl character who, who came up and was so strong. Yeah. You know, we get Samuel L Jackson, which is amazing to see Samuel L. Jackson,

Laura Orr: 39:32

who is a very tame version of himself every day and this is

Kara Edwards: 39:35

Samuel L Jackson becoming Samuel L. Jackson,

Laura Orr: 39:38

for sure. For sure. What did you think about Chris Pratt in this movie? I'm he's back. And I don't I have feelings about him. He's pretty controversial. i

Kara Edwards: 39:50

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan. Yeah,

Laura Orr: 39:52

he's he's not. He's not winning points with people. Yeah. No, no, he's not. He's the new voice of Mario which has been causing some issues because he is not Italian. And he's a member of the Hillsong Church, which is notoriously anti LGBTQ. He has had some tweets that have just been kind of crappy. Ranging from a lot of things. If you want to Google that you can you can look that up, but I just him as a leading character. I'm just I feel like they could have picked somebody else. I know that he's been in previous movies, but that doesn't really mean anything. In my opinion,

Kara Edwards: 40:36

if it makes you feel any better. They brought in the fact that they brought in like, here's our 10 main characters. Nobody's really given the opportunity to completely shine. You know, everybody's Great. Bryce Dallas Howard is great and everything she does. She's great. Laura Dern is great. I mean, everybody's really good. They They also tried to kind of put back that original storyline with with Laura Doran, Laura Dern and I can't even Same, same to honestly, I can't say oh, yes, they thank you, Sunil. And they kind of sloppily tried to put them back together. No, again, nobody is given this, you know, outside to do otherwise. To me, she stands out huge. A bigger than all of the actors. But now he's just, I mean, he's back and there's action and there's dinosaurs.

Laura Orr: 41:30

Okay, okay.

Kara Edwards: 41:31

Okay. But all that said, I want to go back to Jurassic Park, the original 1993 Because that is where we're really focusing on does it hold up for your kid? Okay. And also, it's so much better. And this is the movie that we recommend you guys

Laura Orr: 41:45

watch. Okay, let's do it. Yeah, so it can be streamed on a lot of platforms, Hulu, Google Play, Vudu, HBO, Max, Apple TV, and Amazon Prime. Who's the audience? It's rated PG 13. But I think that's probably the scary part. Yeah. being rated PG 13 For that reason, and how realistic the dinosaurs looked at the time. So if your child is scared of doneness dinosaurs, you've already kind of touched on that but if they are, or or if the child if your child has sensitivity to loud noises, because there are a lot of loud scenes, you might want to rethink it.

Kara Edwards: 42:22

And also there's I mean, there's there's violence and there's deaths. And yeah, people definitely die. There's there's this scene where we're Samuel L Jackson's arm. We see justice arm come forward. There's definitely some some things in there. There's like there's a little bit of language. You know, so I get smoking. I get there's smoke out good. His character like never puts a cigarette down. Yeah. But honestly, I was watching it with my six year old I had no problem watching it with him like

Laura Orr: 42:55

Yeah, I think six is a good age. I think five you could even make an argument for

Kara Edwards: 43:01

if you're watching it right there with them if they have any questions. I think it's fine.

Laura Orr: 43:04

Yeah. Fluffy or educational?

Kara Edwards: 43:07

Oh, me just completely fluffy. Actually, though. I mean, Michael got it came came out talking about DNA and yeah, all kinds of stuff. So I think

Laura Orr: 43:16

it can make kids excited. Like we said, kids already go bonkers over dinosaurs. But it can reignite that and kids, I think it kind of reminded me a little bit of like, the same way that you would get excited about visiting a museum and seeing like the dinosaur skeletons. I think you would get excited about watching. So for sure, there's a little bit to learn, but I think you're right. I think it's mostly it's mostly just

Kara Edwards: 43:41

philosophy. I mean, yeah, the good news is the the bad guys all all lose. It's a good overall reaching message about ego and controlling nature and stealing. Yeah, you know, the bad the bad guys don't end up winning at all. In the end. It's definitely nature and dinosaurs. So

Laura Orr: 44:00

yeah, and it's that it's that thing of the dinosaurs are threatening people's lives. But they are not necessarily the bad guys. Right people? Yeah. That are the villains, if you will. Yeah. So I think in conclusion, you can feel totally good rewatching this with your kids. And it's a really fun family experience.

Kara Edwards: 44:24

I would I would recommend waiting for dominion to hit streaming service. So you want to see if you just want to see the dinosaurs on the big screen. Goodness, you know, the visually it is perfect as they come. Yeah. You know, story for us was was lacking. I was glad we didn't take our children not because I think they would have been scared. But because I think they would have been bored out of their actual minds. Yeah, because they've already seen the dinosaurs. So that wouldn't have impressed them.

Laura Orr: 44:53

Yeah. I would also say that kids could get bored with The original Jurassic Park at the beginning,

Kara Edwards: 45:03

because there's this first few minutes, yeah,

Laura Orr: 45:05

I mean movies in the 90s. I love that they did this. They did a lot of focus on setting up the story. And so a lot of movies have like a good 15 minutes of storyline setup

Kara Edwards: 45:16

17 for the 17 for dressings.

Laura Orr: 45:20

Before they get to like the action, yeah, which I personally like that and appreciate that about movies back then. But our kids aren't as used to it. And so when Daphne was watching it, I found myself telling her like, no, it's gonna pick up like the she was just like, where are the dinosaurs? Because she's used to

Kara Edwards: 45:39

jumping. And quickly Michael did that a little bit? Yeah, like, you got to give it a second got even

Laura Orr: 45:43

the kids showing up, I think add an excitement and element of excitement to the movie as well. And so that's when I think Daphne could became more engaged is when the kids were there and she was laughing at the things they were doing. And then the dinosaurs of course, coming made it more exciting for her. So I think that's something that you could probably expect when you watch it with your young children that the style of cinema was just different back then. So they have to kind of slow their brains down a little bit and make a bad thing. No, like listen to the dialogue, like pay attention to what's going on. This is going to mean something later. So yeah, that's something I think, keep in mind too, but overall, I love this movie. I

Kara Edwards: 46:26

loved it. I get it when I told you every time I get emotional, I love it. I love it Okay, so guys, for the next three weeks, we are actually going to take a little summer break do some vacations with our families. We are going to re air some of our personal favorite episodes. Starting with we will have Coco melon and then Daniel Tiger followed by Daniel Tiger and then because we had the most fun talking about it, we are going to rear crocodile done

Laura Orr: 47:01

end and I think that that has been a favorite of our listeners to have gotten a lot of feedbacks if you haven't heard that one. We will be releasing it in a few weeks and we encourage you to listen to it because it was a really fun

Kara Edwards: 47:13

way too much fun with that one yeah and and again and then we'll be back and we'll be doing all new shows again starting with our second season of the podcast. Yes,

Laura Orr: 47:23

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Laura Orr: 47:36

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Kara Edwards: 47:45

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