Ep. 52: T.O.T.S.

T.O.T.S., short for Tiny Ones Transport Service, is a Disney Plus computer animated series about Pip the Penguin and Freddy the Flamingo, the organization’s very first non-stork birds tasked to deliver baby animals to their new families. TV-Y

The Positives
The show is well-written entertainment for kids.

 Messages of the importance of inclusion and the benefits of diversity.

Representation of diverse family structures.

Teaches problem solving, teamwork, and perserverance.

Fluffy or Educational?
The show is fluffy for the most part, but includes social-emotional messages.  They also throw in the occasional animal fact, but it’s usually the obvious (e.g., cheetahs are fast). 

Potentially Problematic
Stork storyline could lead more inquisitive minds to ask questions about the birds and the bees, so come prepared for a response that works for your family.

Will parents like it?
Yes. It’s cute and fun to watch with your kids and it’s not chronological, so it’s easy to jump right into. 

Should They Watch It?
Laura: Absolutely

Kara: Yes

Side Conversations
The hosts (Laura mostly) were all over the place this week, so strap in, listeners!

Coffee is not getting Laura over the energy hump today. Kara reveals that she drinks the green tea leaf drink matcha instead of regular caffeinated coffee because coffee makers her jittery. Laura’s brother has been pushing butter coffee on her since after seeing Jeff Bridges drinking it on the show “The Old Man.” 

Remember 2003 American Idol runner-up Clay Aiken? Clay Aiken’s rabid fans, “The Claymates,” attacked Kara after a photo of her and Clay turned up online after she interviewed him. The jealous Claymates nicknamed Kara “Peach Perky Boobs,” because she was wearing a peach shirt in the photo and harassed her. 

Fun fact: in many cultures at different times in history, storks have had positive associations with fertility and reproduction. Everywhere from Greece to ancient Egypt to Europe. 

 Kara and Laura are looking to crowdsource a name for their listeners. If you have any suggestions, please contact us at podcast@shouldtheywatchit.com or let us know on instagram. 

 Daytime Emmy nomination or not, are these birds being exploited? Child labor violations! Is their pay equivalent to the quality of their work?

 Laura attempts to include Vanessa Williams lyrics into the show whenever she can, which has Kara rolling her eyes.

UP NEXT WEEK
Ducktales!

 Kara and Laura are looking to crowdsource a name for their listeners. If you have any suggestions, please contact us at podcast@shouldtheywatchit.com or let us know on instagram. 

Transcript

Kara Edwards: 0:00

Hey there and welcome to the should they watch it podcast. Laura has already started swinging on some coffee. I have to go I'm Kara Edwards

Laura Orr: 0:09

I'm Laura Orr. And it turns out no amount of coffee is working at this point. Yeah.

Kara Edwards: 0:14

Oh, it's not why?

Laura Orr: 0:17

I don't know. I feel like I'm have become immune to it. I drink it and I'm still so tired.

Kara Edwards: 0:23

You need to start adding matcha to your coffee. That's what I do every morning actually. So I don't I don't drink caffeine. I don't know what knew this about me. I don't drink any caffeine ever. So I drink decaf coffee and I put it in I loaded up with matcha powder.

Laura Orr: 0:39

But much is not caffeine.

Kara Edwards: 0:40

I mean it is but in a different form. Like it's it's like green tea. Like it has energy producing powers without being straight up coffee, caffeine.

Laura Orr: 0:49

What's the difference? For me?

Kara Edwards: 0:51

It is different and I don't know why. I can't explain scientifically why this is the case but if I were to drink a cup of coffee, I would be sitting here ready to like KoolAid through a wall.

Laura Orr: 1:02

Oh, you freak out.

Kara Edwards: 1:05

No, I do I get jittery. I get really overly energetic i That's the guy I can't like but it gives me incredible anxiety.

Laura Orr: 1:13

But how do you know if you're truly alive? If your heart's not beating beat your chest?

Kara Edwards: 1:19

By Milly would beat actually out of my chest and through my throat and no, it gives me but if I put but much it does not have that same effect on me. I don't know the science behind it. But I know that much. It helps me kind of wake up like coffee does most people without the need to actually like light things on fire.

Laura Orr: 1:39

So I have a very important question ask you. Yes. When I come over here and I asked you for a cup of coffee. Are you giving me decaf bullcrap?

Kara Edwards: 1:48

Good news, we're here. My husband drinks. Okay, so I am giving you real. That would be really funny though. This whole time when you're like, Can I have a cup of coffee? I'm like,

Laura Orr: 1:59

Go loser. Here's your decaf. decaf. That would feel like an ultimate betrayal. Honestly,

Kara Edwards: 2:05

it's not this whole time it was working. You're like, oh, Kara's the best coffee and I'm like,

Laura Orr: 2:11

what's that word? We're guys should totally know this word where it's like a placebo or whatever. Placebo Effect. Yeah, you're just laughing?

Kara Edwards: 2:20

No, you are getting real coffee, I assure you. Thank you. That's drinking my matcha and

Laura Orr: 2:26

my my my brother's been trying to get me to put butter in my coffee. Have you heard of that? Gross. I know. It's a thing. Somewhere in the world. Okay, put butter in your coffee. And apparently I think Jeff Bridges is doing it in some new TV show that my brother's watching. So now he's been putting butter in his coffee. So

Kara Edwards: 2:44

it's like, how can you take something bad for you like caffeinated coffee, and make it even worse? I know. Let's drop giant blobs of cholesterol, of studying Exactly. That cholesterol into the thing with caffeine. Right? That's actually really just sounds gross.

Laura Orr: 3:01

And he said My brother says it's tasty. I have not had the courage to try it myself. Because butter to me is very salty. And yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about the potential of my of my coffee being salty. I drink it black usually, but if I'm gonna change the bitterness, it's going to be more towards the sweet side of things. But unless butter transforms itself into in when it's in coffee and becomes a type of flavor, which is possible, right? Yes, through science. I have no clue. But one day I will try it when I'm feeling particularly courageous. And I'll let you know. But apparently it's delicious. And it's what the Keto folks do. The keto dieters apparently it's like an alternative to cream and sugar is butter. Okay, I don't know how we got on this.

Kara Edwards: 3:53

I don't either. sigh we've gone off on a coffee tangent.

Laura Orr: 3:56

I wanted to talk to you though. I'll completely shift gears now because I had a listener ask if we were going to name our listeners

Kara Edwards: 4:05

name our listeners Yeah, anything podcasts do

Laura Orr: 4:08

Yeah, so like so many podcasting their listeners like my favorite murderer has like murder Reno's and okay. I don't know I can't think

Kara Edwards: 4:19

of okay, but hold on. Do we beam the listeners or do the listeners name themselves? That's a really like do I do and I'm asking because I'm thinking of like, famous like singers or bands or whatever will have like their fans will come up with a name for themselves. I I have actually had a rather negative encounter in my life with a group of named fan what's fact what named fan I might get to dude, I might get super triggered here. No, not really.

Laura Orr: 4:53

No, one night. I'm here for you.

Kara Edwards: 4:56

A long time ago when I worked in radio, okay, you remember When a mayor so when do you remember American Idol? American Idol had just become like it's really big thing. And there was a guy who was on the show named Clay Aiken. Oh yeah, he was from the Carolinas. So they care and I was living in the Carolinas. I was living in Charlotte at the time. And so they called themselves the claymates. Oh, that's adorable name.

Laura Orr: 5:24

It's cute. Unless they hate you.

Kara Edwards: 5:25

They hated me what happens though he came, I had a radio show. He came on the radio show. And and this was like, social media was just starting to become a thing. I mean, it was barely I don't even think Facebook existed yet. So this was back when like message boards were a thing. Oh, what

Laura Orr: 5:43

year was this?

Kara Edwards: 5:43

I don't know. It was a time ago. I

Laura Orr: 5:45

shouldn't ask you to Yeah, I don't know.

Kara Edwards: 5:47

No, no, it was a year sometime between this year and that year, early 2000. Early 2000. Yeah. So I anyway, they, there was like a bunch of pics. We had the mayor of Charlotte Mayor McCrory at the time, he became governor. And anyways, I'm not gonna get into politics. But Mayor McCrory was there and there was like, paparazzi because it was a big deal that clique and was coming on our show. And he did a live performance and we had a bunch of the fans come in anyways, they were taking lots of pictures. And there were lots of pictures because I was the producer of the shows. So we were all in the pictures and I was wearing a peach colored shirt. And by chance, a lot of the pictures I am standing next to clay, okay, his fans went rabid on me. And we're like, they they nicknamed me once they started calling me peach perky boobs. Why? Cuz? Because obviously it was before I had a child

Laura Orr: 6:49

good googling. Probably doesn't

Kara Edwards: 6:52

exist online because I'm telling you this was so long ago that Facebook was not even a thing. Twitter was non existent. Why were

Laura Orr: 7:00

they calling you that? Because I was wearing

Kara Edwards: 7:02

a peach colored shirt and it was before I had children do not Google

Unknown: 7:08

perky boobs. Holy crap. I don't think it's me that's gonna come up. No, guys.

Laura Orr: 7:16

Do not Google peach perky boobs. Totally. No, don't do it. There's somebody in the adult entertainment industry has pink perky boobs is is all over the adult entertainment industry. It's

Kara Edwards: 7:37

not me. Nothing to do. reincarnation of Pittsburgh moves too early

Laura Orr: 7:44

in the day. I just saw you. Holy moly. I am so sorry. All I'm saying is peach perky boobs having a great time? I hope you're okay, peach. perky. Oops. Okay, so you were standing next to him. And because of the color of the shirt, it drew attention to you as I'm just saying your big boobs. It was the first time that

Kara Edwards: 8:11

I had ever because he I mean, believe it or not once upon a time before my child ate them. They Yeah. Anyways, we have derailed

Laura Orr: 8:22

my boobs, but they didn't like, you know, die.

Kara Edwards: 8:26

Because this was the this was when the claymates were in denial about who clay might. Okay, like, yeah. And so I think it was just a threat that there was a young girl, I would have been much younger, that there was a young girl standing next to clay the point of this. Did

Laura Orr: 8:45

they think you were dating him?

Kara Edwards: 8:47

I don't, Laura, you're asking me to like understand things I don't understand. Okay. All I know is I received a lot of harassment. And I mean, a lot of harassment back then.

Laura Orr: 8:58

What were they saying? When they claim it? They

Kara Edwards: 9:00

just didn't like me. Like, get your hands on harm, man. Oh,

Laura Orr: 9:07

like, Yeah, let's see. They saw y'all were a couple.

Kara Edwards: 9:12

This was all to say that is my experience with named people when a group comes together and they are named.

Laura Orr: 9:22

They are I mean, there are a lot of rabid fans. Yes. And if they

Kara Edwards: 9:29

add spin only that's been well, that's actually not my only one. But that's the only one that comes with a great story. Oh, you have more? Yeah, but we're not getting into all of that. Because I mean, I Okay, I work in and we don't have enough time. Um, cuz I work in an industry. Yeah, it has amazing fans. And sometimes those fans like become very, very serious about a certain actor. And if that actor is they removed from the industry or something, they're going to target the actors that are still in the industry

Laura Orr: 10:01

i No, I think that that is a very unhealthy way for these fans to deal with law and

Kara Edwards: 10:08

I know that our listeners would never never never like,

Laura Orr: 10:13

but if they are getting to the point where they're asking for us to name them, I'm starting to wonder. I think that person who asked us maybe they would hide a body for

Kara Edwards: 10:23

us maybe so maybe that's what we need in this world is our people, our tribe, our beautiful amazing people who stick with us and listen to our ridiculous stories from years gone by Yeah, yeah, so sure so from that perspective, we've been determined we to be determined if anyone listening can think of an amazing name that would come off with the should they watch it podcast Yeah, we would love to name our people who who get us

Laura Orr: 10:53

Yeah, cuz when this person asked me I could not for the life of me think of any

Kara Edwards: 10:57

I don't either like you know, what would we because we have to shut days

Laura Orr: 11:02

the shit Yeah, cuz like we have a different we have a lot of different kinds of people who like to listen we have Yeah, we have paint we have caregivers, parents, grandparents, and things and some teachers but we also just have fans of cartoons. Yeah, love cartoons and so to find an umbrella term that would feel good for everybody. I cannot think of one so we'll think about okay to be determined in the meantime, shall we? Did we say no?

Kara Edwards: 11:34

To one and ah oh,

Laura Orr: 11:38

it's time to fly with tights.

Kara Edwards: 11:41

I don't know anything past this. Oh. Oh,

Laura Orr: 11:45

I don't get really good songs. It's

Kara Edwards: 11:49

so catchy and the songs throughout the entire show are so catchy. Yeah, all the way not annoying as someone who can sometimes get annoyed by songs and shows aim. I love Okay, well first we are reviewing

Laura Orr: 12:03

tots. Which is an acronym that stands for tiny ones transport service. It is a Disney plus show. Care. Are you laughing?

Kara Edwards: 12:15

Just cute because you just have this like giddiness on your face that I feel like I need to go straight into Laura should they watch it as?

Laura Orr: 12:23

As a lover of fun facts. That's what the giddiness came from and I will say absolutely, it's a pretty obvious yes for me. Yeah, Kara. Should they watch? I mean, yeah, yeah, it's

Kara Edwards: 12:35

absolutely I mean, I feel like the giddiness today is warranted because

Laura Orr: 12:40

it's a precious show. Precious, so precious. It's a really, it's a show that I have not like heard a lot about. It's a Disney plus show. I think a lot of the attention that a lot of shows that are getting a lot of attention are from Netflix. And so this one's been flying under the radar.

Kara Edwards: 13:02

Hey, it's about birds.

Laura Orr: 13:04

That's why that was a funny pun right there anyway, yeah.

Kara Edwards: 13:06

So basically, we have PIP and we have Freddie This is a penguin and a flamingo who have joined an academy for storks who deliver babies. They are called the junior fliers PIP does the mapping and Freddy does the flapping. That's right. This show delivering a baby is a three step process. I actually wrote down the steps check the address, number one, number two, remove the crate from the wings. Number three, give the doorbell a ring. And then basically the rest of us just sit back for 20 minutes of hilarity and misadventure because things are never as they seem and they never go as planned, right?

Laura Orr: 13:42

Because they're beginners. They're just learning. And when they make a delivery successfully, they get a stamp, which is a lot like I'm pretty sure Ridley Jones does something like that. Yeah, she accomplished something. She gets a stamp. So I'm guessing I'm wondering, I didn't look this up I should have but if there's a like activity that kids can do online that involves stamp collecting, usually, whenever something like that happens, I think that there is an interactive piece,

Kara Edwards: 14:08

probably like on a website or something. So we found this show. Because when I was traveling with my family when we were on vacation, are one of the Airbnbs we were in our kids came across the show on Disney plus and let me tell you, my two six year olds were hooked instantly like they and Michael who's sometimes you'd be like, Oh, that's a baby show. Completely into it. Yeah, pletely and Remy, of course, this was right up her alley and everywhere we went, it was like, Can we watch dots? Can we watch more Todd's, we just want more taught?

Laura Orr: 14:41

Yeah, I think at face value. If you even as a parent were to see just the premise of the show. You might think that your kids if you have a six or seven year old you might think they'd be too old for it, but it's actually surprisingly, still an engaging show for that age.

Kara Edwards: 14:56

I did have one little issue can I went to watch the show. And it's an issue I still haven't totally figured out. I've been having some problems with Disney plus as I'm logging in. And yeah, it was definitely in another language. Your Disney plus my entire Disney plus is in another language and I haven't still figured out exactly how to fix it but I don't know what language it is exactly. It has a lot of dots and a lot of orcs like words words and Orcs. So I don't know and I don't want to be offensive in any way. So I'm not trying to label what language I think this is. It reminds me a lot of

Laura Orr: 15:42

IKEA. So Swedish Swedish okay,

Kara Edwards: 15:46

maybe something else had I don't know. So

Laura Orr: 15:49

you just logged in one day and it was in a different language

Kara Edwards: 15:52

it's in a different language we've everything, everything audio to and that's actually how we found tuts is because while we were on vacation, it seems that in my account probably got hacked or something because my main account was on lockdown. And so I just opened up a new account and then all sudden all these junior shows came up Disney Jr. type shows when I was like oh kids look new content, live it up. And because your algorithm has been built yet and I was able to get it unlocked and for a while it was fine. And now I've gone in and it's in another language so more than likely I've been hacked this is on me I have not taken the time to figure this issue out.

Laura Orr: 16:29

So are you still paying?

Kara Edwards: 16:31

Oh yeah. Because we are still watching it we're just watching the junior version of it until I can find the desert but the shows are actually in another language I really yeah not only is like the writing and that's why I haven't been able to figure it out is all the writing is in in like I really wish it were in Spanish or something that I can read. Oh, to understand i when I'm going into settings, it's literally in a lake orc orc orc language that I'm not able to read you know Dorst English devotion I don't know what it's saying and then when I'm clicking on the TV shows they have been dubbed into this language as well. Michael and I had an entire like 20 minutes where we were like screaming with laughter

Laura Orr: 17:18

It's so funny that I never thought about that that you if if everything is in this language you don't know then how can you change it how

Kara Edwards: 17:27

do you go into the settings and I tried going through that I like I tried going through like the Internet app and I don't know I've honestly I just need to make a phone call I'm not trying to knock on Disney because I have not made the phone call to customer service yet. Quite frankly my son is finding this hilarious to watch his favorite shows and like a completely differently which we have never heard before. Yeah,

Laura Orr: 17:50

that would be super entertaining. And I have no solution for no but I do wonder how does it feel to know that like some kid and I'll we'll just say Sweden is benefiting if you sponsored a child basically, to be able to watch

Kara Edwards: 18:07

Disney plus How does that feel? That actually feels pretty darn good when you put it like that?

Laura Orr: 18:11

I mean, it's not going to be good one he goes he or she goes on there one and I have

Kara Edwards: 18:15

eventually fixed this issue.

Laura Orr: 18:21

Poor child

Kara Edwards: 18:22

so I was really relieved to find that thots was on the junior section because otherwise I would have been calling you Laura and being like, so we're not reviewing tights. Unless I am just reviewing it in Swedish.

Laura Orr: 18:35

Yeah. I'm glad you got another account. Yeah, no, are able to move forward that would have stalled the podcast for sure.

Kara Edwards: 18:41

We're fine. We're

Laura Orr: 18:44

back to the show, though. I there was one thing I kept. Because this show was such a clear yes. There's it's very much an obvious yes. And whenever that happens, when we watch shows my mind just kind of goes into lala land and I start thinking about other things. As you know, we call up Laura's wheels off moments. The one thing I have a question about, Okay, bring it. So they have Junior fliers, right? This Junior delivery teams and they usually get a stork right? And instead they have chosen to get this team together a flamingo and a penguin because they can't really because of what because of the kind of animal they are. They cannot do it by themselves.

Kara Edwards: 19:23

Right? Because you have the penguin that can't fly and they kind of tried to make it like the flamingos maybe not as good as savvy not as savvy. That's a good direction is Yeah, yeah, eat them together. Make up one stork

Laura Orr: 19:38

and I just like, I'm just wondering if these two animals are being exploited, because financially speaking, they would be more expensive as a team,

Kara Edwards: 19:49

right? So now they're each making half as much as that what you're

Laura Orr: 19:52

wondering, and I'm like, why would they do this? I understand adding diversity to the team and I appreciate that. but because there's two of them, they've got to be more of a more expensive, right? Yeah. And so are they getting paid the same as the other storks? Probably I hope so.

Kara Edwards: 20:10

Cuz I mean, but probably together so they're each making half as much, but they have a dream or they have a dream. They're like, this is America in this as a corporation.

Laura Orr: 20:19

That's what I'm saying. And so all corporations are dirty. We know that. So even this baby delivery Corporation is fast. So I feel like they're being exploited as all I'm saying.

Kara Edwards: 20:29

I mean, I don't think you're wrong. Okay.

Laura Orr: 20:32

You think I'm right.

Kara Edwards: 20:33

I do do is I mean, something's going on that in their kids.

Laura Orr: 20:38

I mean, the storks themselves, the other store so it's a crew of storks that all deliver babies, and the storks are all adults. And then we got these two kids, a penguin and a flamingo who are being tasked with delivering babies and I'm thinking they're taking advantage of them that right of their excitement to be to breaking into a new industry as the first ever Flamingo and Penguin and their children. So this is probably like their first job that it should be illegal that they are working at the age of probably what 11 I would say so these kids are probably making peanuts. I'm just saying

Kara Edwards: 21:17

Disney. I mean, I can't say that you're wrong. I have a pride I will say that the show was nominated for a Daytime Emmy for Outstanding animation

Laura Orr: 21:28

justice for PIP and Freddie whatever it is I made

Kara Edwards: 21:31

it and they say things in the show like every bird deserves a chance no matter what feathers they have I don't know that I mean maybe maybe these birds already maybe these birds are paid not paid the way we think they're paid. Maybe they're just paid and bird seed and bird seed and fish and

Laura Orr: 21:49

well they are quite smaller, so maybe they don't require as much bird seed as the storks right. I bet you they will end storks eat whole fish Hold on. storks eat whole fish. Penguins eat whole. They all eat whole fish. Yeah, don't they? Yeah, they do. Even flamingos eat shrimp. They do. That's why they're for fur. That's why their feathers are pink. Did you know that?

Kara Edwards: 22:14

No, I didn't go to Zoo school. My kids. I could probably tell you all of these things. You

Laura Orr: 22:20

can cut all of this by the way. Are you budding flamingos are pink because they eat shrimp? And so that turns their feathers pink? If they don't eat shrimp, I think they're white.

Kara Edwards: 22:32

Why would I cut this brilliant knowledge from our listeners without a name?

Laura Orr: 22:40

Anyways, this totally doesn't matter because this is all make believe. But again when a show is so great and ease in this is not a show that is chronological. It is a show you can jump in at any time

Kara Edwards: 22:52

completely. In fact, I even I had some fun with because there's three seasons 25 episodes per season. So we've got 75 episodes altogether. I was super curious how Season Three compared to season one. So I went in and started watching and I think the thing that I found the most fascinating and I went and researched this a little bit is so I believe and it could be a little wrong but I believe pips voice actor was replaced by season three because he had hit puberty, and they needed to bring in a child that sounded you know, like a child. But they clearly didn't replace Freddie's voice actor and sweet little Freddie's voice in season three is so much deeper than it isn't season one. And I was just loving on this so much,

Laura Orr: 23:40

because it's so gross for me, did it? It's so precious.

Kara Edwards: 23:45

But PIP didn't make the cut. No, but there's I mean, this show has so many children voice actors in it. And they're adorable. I mean, these are real children that they're using. Minus Vanessa Williams who plays Captain big lemon, man. So you do have you know, we've got some famous voices in there as well. There's others saved

Laura Orr: 24:07

the best for last on that one. Oh, wow. You've

Kara Edwards: 24:10

been waiting for that moment.

Laura Orr: 24:14

My chance had not yet passed. Yeah, dude. Oh, man. I know a lot of people know her as being like, the Miss America but I know her

Kara Edwards: 24:24

does anybody actually. Oh, yeah. I know. I know. That's what she did a long time ago. But like,

Laura Orr: 24:29

maybe not everybody cuz she wasn't Ugly Betty Wasn't she she has done things. She's done a lot since worked. But like it Oh, and I asked my husband how he knew her and he said from the eraser. Do you remember that? Nope. It was Arnold Schwarzenegger was like yeah, I mean

Kara Edwards: 24:45

she's like one of those ladies you multi talented she wears many hats

Laura Orr: 24:49

I would say yeah, like her and singer and absolutely but what I think I think of her walking through snow singing the best for last. Okay,

Kara Edwards: 24:58

she's magical creature I mean And that is that is our generation.

Laura Orr: 25:02

Yeah. And she does a really good job on this show. She's got me super good.

Kara Edwards: 25:05

Everybody does the voice acting is great. The animation is great. This is again, I think you nailed it when you said sometimes these are the hardest ones to review, because we're just like, nope, super cute. A lot of fun. I hate that it ended in season three was, in fact, the final season, even though it just came out in 2022. So I don't know that it's going to be renewed unless they come back and do something else with it at some point, I think. And I was thinking about that, too. Like, why would they end it? And it's like, I mean, maybe they ran out of baby animals to fly the 75 episodes. That's a lot of baby animals.

Laura Orr: 25:40

I was surprised that there were 75 episodes for that very reason. Yeah, maybe they did just run out.

Kara Edwards: 25:46

You just I mean, that's a lot for these writers to have to be coming up with creative content every single episode when when, like you said, you can watch these completely out of order because there's no continuing storyline here. Yeah. And they're all basically the same story, just different, different antics

Laura Orr: 26:05

based on the the personality or like the fun, like the little things that we do know about the baby animals that they're delivering, I think they do a really good job. Taking a characteristic of a animal that we know like if the cheetah, The cheetah is fast, then they they cannot catch the cheetah because it's running too fast for them to catch and deliver. So that's kind of the shtick of the show, which

Kara Edwards: 26:27

it weren't and then sometimes it's completely nonsensical, like the crab just needs its blanket. Yeah, right. blankie so like some of it is like educational, some of it is just kind of silliness. This is actually not the first time that Disney introduced storks delivering baby animals because we have the beginning of Disney's Dumbo shows the storks service in 1941 That was actually the first time that Disney started introducing the delivering of babies with stocks.

Laura Orr: 26:58

There's a lot of i i got a little bit again, when a show is really a yes and not a chronological watched show. Our chronologically chronologically viewed show I get my brain goes in all different directions. So I did some research on stork history. Oh yes, bring

Kara Edwards: 27:16

it this time. This might be interesting.

Laura Orr: 27:21

It's so interesting to me as a lover of fun facts and then I just like throw it at you Kara. And our listeners are no named listener. I know nameless, but I read this really cool article from history daily.org But they have a global meaning across cultures that are linked to meanings associated with family so ancient Egyptians associated storks with reincarnation. In the Middle East storks were a symbol of purity. In Native American cultures, storks were often linked to good fortune and fertility, these facilities fertility one, just one fertility, all of the fertility is in stories from ancient Europe, storks are seen as representing monogamy and family and this is just bonkers to me because that is across the world. storks are kind of resembling this, you know, reproduction, you know, family, right type of symbol. And it's crazy to me that from from one into the of the globe to the next it can have a like a mod like one type of theme that it represents. You know what I mean? That's interesting. I thought that was really cool. So, in pagan Europe, most couples got married on the day of the summer stole Solstice during the festivals honoring the sun, fertility and prosperity. So coincidentally, that's when storks but also start their annual migration. And that lasts about nine months. Oh, yes. So they would migrate from Norway, Germany and other parts of northern Europe all the way to Africa. And then they would return nine months later. Just as all the newlyweds were giving birth to their babies, their honeymoon babies See what I'm saying? Yep. So um, so very symbolic throughout. Yeah. And then there's Greek mythology involving the stork where um, let's see Zeus his wife found out that he was cheating on her with this like, hot mortal queen. She's very sexy or whatever. And she turned. So the wife turns Serena into a stork. Drina was the hot queen, and told her to get out of town. Okay, but Jurina had a baby that she didn't want to leave behind. So she gathered the baby in her mouth, and flew away with it. Oh, and then Hans Christian Andersen wrote a story called the storks which I love it so much. I want to read this story. It tells how storks select sleeping babies from the depths of a pond and deliver them to families in the nearby villages get this you're gonna love this. In one village, there lived a mean spirited little boy who teased the storks and threw stones at them. So to get even with this child, the storks delivered a dead baby oh god to his family, and this Stork, stork this story was meant to serve as a cautionary tale to show how to show bratty children that there were consequences to their actions and to show young parents that they should discipline their children. Why

Kara Edwards: 30:30

would I love this story? This

Laura Orr: 30:32

is hilarious. Oh, it's not terrible, because we reviewed children's shows that talks about appropriateness of stories and this is a story that people regularly told their children in order to teach them to stop being jerks. This is a terrible I

Kara Edwards: 30:48

know, right? Which kind of leads me to my only thing that I could think of on this show as problematic, which is going to be formed in a question to you as a therapist, because I literally, I mean, what's problematic about the show? I couldn't come up with anything but watching it I had this recurring thought, did you come up with things? No. I kept having this recurring thought of like, okay, so this is teaching children. Our job as a parent is to guide the children not threaten them with dead babies. But this weird story.

Laura Orr: 31:24

I loved it. So weird. I can't wait to tell my children.

Kara Edwards: 31:29

It's terrible. Anyway, too. Just kidding. Are we supposed to be as parents? Like, what is better to be honest with your children about? I mean, I haven't been honest with Michael about birds and bees. Fortunately, that is not something that has been asked about yet, right? You know, but I'm very honest, in my discussions with him. So I was when I was watching the show with both kids on vacation, I kept thinking like, oh, man, is this gonna start leading to questions about like, is this where babies come from? Is this how, and like, at what point? Is this a show? Is this sort of like, no, there's a flamingo and a penguin that are dropping you off on your parents doorstep? And this sci fi tomb thing? I don't know. What do you call it? Not a tomb, I can see what you did to me with your

Laura Orr: 32:25

a, like a container on

Kara Edwards: 32:30

a sci fi pod that these babies come from? And do they all start off in this like place up in the sky where they're just playing around with a koala bear? You know, lovely story. Yeah, this is much better than yours. How do you like, is this something that? I don't know what my question is? Here they are. But take it from there. Yeah.

Laura Orr: 32:54

So if, if your child watches this, if they are very curious child, we didn't say before, but I like I would say seven and under right? I'd say a two year old might watch it a three year old definitely would be engaged. They're probably not going to ask that kind of a question. But definitely like you, you might be faced with the question of maybe your five, six or seven year old saying,

Kara Edwards: 33:19

is this how I was born? Is this where baby? Where do babies come from? Yes.

Laura Orr: 33:23

Where do babies come from? Because even in the show, the babies are kind of they just appear right at the delivery service. So we don't even know where they're coming from

Kara Edwards: 33:33

original original like oh, look bunny bonanza. Here we go. We're

Laura Orr: 33:37

gonna take it to the parents. Yeah. So where did the babies come from? is still a question that they could ask you and I know that that's something that you know, can come from many different types of encounters that your children have. I think I think that that is a you're too young to be talking to kids about sex for sure. Right?

Kara Edwards: 34:00

And so So are you forced to lie like does a show like this put you in the position to have to be like well, it's not snore storks but I'm not telling you what it is kid

Laura Orr: 34:11

let me take my therapist had offered to say we lie to our kids all the time anyways, and so yeah, things that we keep up for our kids to kind of preserve their I don't know, right there whatever that is. Why don't want to take innocence because I don't like that but their childhood right. There's some there's things that we do because we want to keep that like that magical. Thinking kind of like with them as long as possible because it is a nice place to be. And then once it's gone, you're faced with a lot of the reality of the world or whatever. So I if you want it I mean, I don't know. I don't I don't think you're gonna hurt him. Right. I don't think you are Um, but I also don't think there's anything wrong with saying that is something that I will tell you about when you're older.

Kara Edwards: 35:06

That's what I was expecting. Because I kept waiting and waiting and waiting. Knowing my children. I was like, There's come in a question that I don't want to answer today.

Laura Orr: 35:15

Because you will have to account for the fact that you lied,

Kara Edwards: 35:18

right? A one day and I would have already told him like, no, that's not where babies come from. Because I don't want to be like, yeah, they all were dropped off by storks.

Laura Orr: 35:28

Right. So parents, do you feel comfortable with that? And that's, you know, I don't think that that is going to be the thing that messes your kid up. I know what I mean. Because you've already done so much. You've done other things. That's not the thing. Usually, you know, it's, it's not that. And so if you want to keep the story going, I'm not going to judge you. But you will, you know, they probably will come up to you later and be like, remember when you told me that babies came from this elaborate story that you

Kara Edwards: 35:56

tell them? This is really easy, because then you say I did not Disney did that was Disney that was 100% on Disney. You can be mad at the ones who lied. I lied to you I

Laura Orr: 36:07

to you. Okay, so another thing that I thought would be important to bring to parents attention is that this might, if you are living in a place where you might come upon a baby animal. Like, you might want to, while while you're watching this show, kind of let your kids know, like don't approach baby animals with hopes of reuniting it with its parents. Yeah,

Kara Edwards: 36:33

that's, uh, I didn't see this one. I see problematic stuff. And so many shows that we review as far as like treatment of animals. Yes. And kids with that. This one I don't see as much just because the kids are going to be I mean, they're not Junior fliers. So it's true. You know, because it's associated with a job like our job is to take these Yeah, parents but knowing your children. If this is something that is important to bring up like, hey, you know, if you see a baby animal don't go near it because there might be a mommy, that's not real happy to have you near their baby.

Laura Orr: 37:07

Right. Exactly. And I think it can inspire that conversation. Because they'll, you know, we always at some point in our lives are going to encounter something like that. Yeah, so this might be the opportunity for you to have a discussion. Yes, exactly. Sure. This is not problematic, but I don't know. I didn't you know, I didn't know when to talk about this, but I have to bring it up. Did you see that tots was created by a production company called tip mouse?

Kara Edwards: 37:31

Yeah.

Laura Orr: 37:33

What's up with the name?

Kara Edwards: 37:35

That is an actual animal.

Laura Orr: 37:37

I know it's a bird right? But like, what is the shenanigans behind naming a bird titmouse

Kara Edwards: 37:45

I mean, you got to go back in history. Okay,

Laura Orr: 37:48

I want to meet the guy or girl person human Yeah, who decided who looked at that bird and was like, Ah, I have the perfect name for that.

Kara Edwards: 37:56

Then the production company that came in immediately behind them and was like you know it we should name our production company.

Laura Orr: 38:03

Sit mouths Yeah, but I will say that production company. This is they also are responsible for Beavis and Butthead. Okay, and to then it makes it Wait, this production company did this and Beavis and Butthead they did interest Yes. Now this is an interesting fact. Even though I'm really uncomfortable because at this point, we've talked about peach perky boobs. Like we need to we need to move on. There's there's definitely a more adult aspect to talk apparently Laurie everybody. So all I'm saying is after I found out all of those things about that production company, I cannot think of titmouse without a butthead laugh in my head. Will and I hope that my listeners are leave this episode with the same present for their brain. Every time you hear titmouse you just

Kara Edwards: 38:57

go oh my god. Are there more questions we need to answer?

Laura Orr: 39:01

Yes. So is it fluffy or, or or educational?

Kara Edwards: 39:06

It is fluffy. They tried to put in tiny little bits of education about the animals but that is not

Laura Orr: 39:11

the purpose. Yeah, it's there's social emotional learning components but yeah, and the animal facts that that they provide. They really don't go outside of the obvious. You're really minimal. Yes. If you're really looking for if you're looking for some like fun animal facts, there's other shows out there like creature cases for this one. It's not it's not about animal kingdom facts. It's about it's a fun, cute story. Yeah, so I like that about it, though. Will parents like it?

Kara Edwards: 39:42

I actually I really enjoyed watching it. I mean, there comes a point where it gets very obvious and you're gonna tune out but like, you know, as far as young children's shows go, this is one of my favorites.

Laura Orr: 39:54

I agree. We always say this. It wasn't written for us, right,

Kara Edwards: 39:58

but this one was still engaged. This one's not gonna annoy you this. It's it's really well done.

Laura Orr: 40:03

Yeah. So one of the things that I really liked about the overall message of the show, I feel like when you watch the show a big message that they're trying to get across is that is about diversity. Because the storks are this homogenous group. Yeah, that all and they end the the company itself company, itself, Corporation corporation itself has a very standard way of doing things.

Kara Edwards: 40:36

Yeah. And you even have JP, who's the stork that's like, Oh, look at me, I'm so inspiring. I'm so great.

Laura Orr: 40:42

And they're in and I've been here for a long time. And I'm the best. And this is how things are done. And you guys are coming in here and kicking up dirt. And we and I don't like that about you guys. Eventually, I think he comes around. That's the initial reaction to these, these two birds coming in. And they are not only different in appearance, but they bring new ideas to how things are done. And so I think this that, and there was this episode, and I really liked that about the show, because it's about embracing change. Yeah, and how diversity can bring new ideas and new

Kara Edwards: 41:23

way of perspective, doing thing

Laura Orr: 41:26

and this was all very evident in that episode. There was this message on one of the episodes that there's more than one right way to deliver a baby, which on its face is also a very cool message. But in the episode, there's this rulebook on how to deliver these babies. Kara, you had talked about it earlier, three cents. Yeah. But these these, these two birds bring a new way to do it that haven't been introduced tots to tots. And it would never have been introduced to Todd, but they not open their doors to a more diverse set of applicants. So I think that that was a really cool.

Kara Edwards: 42:01

And that's kind of a common theme throughout all the episodes. They do things a little bit differently in the other birds being like, Well, no, we don't do things different. Oh, wait, actually, that was better. Yeah, like it kind of happens throughout.

Laura Orr: 42:13

And so how change is progress, embrace, change, embrace, you know, lovely

Kara Edwards: 42:18

thing.

Laura Orr: 42:18

It's really cool. There's a lot of teamwork and problem solving. In the episodes. There was that sweet, sweet episode where Captain Beakman adopts a cat to be her child. Yeah, and they sing that really sweet song about all you need to make a family is love. And so there's, you know, throughout some of the episodes, just really sweet messages about how families look different. And the only thing that matters is is you know, is love and I thought that was really cool to a

Kara Edwards: 42:51

lot of good little messages a lot of sweet little songs that are a lot of fun.

Laura Orr: 42:55

And yeah, and if anyone listening knows we it's very hit or miss with us if if you if they decide to put song

Kara Edwards: 43:02

Yeah, and when they don't make sense. I thought that they used the songs to really enhance each episode and like in sometimes the songs or even put in a way that was like made it really humorous. And yeah,

Laura Orr: 43:18

it's a really well done show. We definitely encourage you guys to sit down with your kids and watch. Especially if you have kids who are toddler age, but also young kids. Yeah, for sure. They could probably enjoy it together I

Kara Edwards: 43:31

think for sure. All right. Thumbs up Disney. Even in Swedish,

Laura Orr: 43:36

Swedish Disney. Enjoy it now little spin up in Sweden, because your time is coming where it's coming.

Kara Edwards: 43:44

I'm gonna figure this out like so. Yeah, I will figure this out. What are we doing next week? We're going to be talking about duck tails.

Laura Orr: 43:52

Yep, new duck tails. So we're gonna

Kara Edwards: 43:55

talk about nostalgia for days and then talk

Laura Orr: 43:59

about the new one. I'm excited. Yeah, I want to watch this one I want to talk about also like the differences but I wonder if Scrooge Scrooge in that.

Kara Edwards: 44:08

I don't know. Just Oh DuckTales Yeah, but I don't know. You're you're thinking of

Laura Orr: 44:14

there's another one with the ducks. Yeah, right where they go on

Kara Edwards: 44:17

an adventure and this one duck tails. I don't know if he's, I hope I now I'm wondering

Laura Orr: 44:21

if he's gonna have the room full of coins that he swims around in or if it's Oh, you're

Kara Edwards: 44:25

thinking of the Christmas one was screwed? No. He

Laura Orr: 44:28

has that in his house. He's does it all the time. All right, even on Christmas.

Kara Edwards: 44:34

We're gonna figure out figure out things duck. We

Laura Orr: 44:36

will sort this out by next week and we'll have a more concise opinion. I

Kara Edwards: 44:41

don't really I don't know. We'll probably not. We'll do our best everybody. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you next week. Bye.